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以前用單頻道非比例式遙控,前輩們流傳一個笑話: "一按左,二按右,三按翻筋斗" :P


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Stanley wrote:
睇完CM隻慘死既Extreme後,見C.M.彈左個膽機出黎仲疑為佢想講
膽機係真空管工業的死剩種,近十幾年因膽機復興而重生,就好似比諭佢隻Extreme咁,有幾會定會重生
,唉!竟然無泥頭講埋D無間道,係唔係撞襯個腦呀!

不過講開膽管又講呀!個隻WE300B管係已前Bell Lab設計,但真係過哂氣,依家好多大陸和蘇聯膽靚過佢多多聲啦!

如果解決了供電問題,用膽控都唔差喎,起碼冬天放機都無咁凍!而且放起機黎大膽好多,要成績唔要機都肯,一定會進步快!
:lol: :lol:


咁好想像力 . .. . :x


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:D 各位飛友 :roll:
:roll: 祝新年好 :wink:
:D 炮炮 :lol::wink::P


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各位飛友,我就祝大家 -
:lol: 有快無痛 :lol:


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Happy Newyear ! ! :o


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各位飛友,天氣預告話今個星期日是吹大東風,正呀!好大機會我地會係馬鞍山比賽。

自從上次馬鞍非正式比賽後,都好想問問你們對在近大鐘那邊場地比賽的意見,集思廣益,好攘我們決定今次比賽的安排。

在上次比賽,飛友完成賽事後要步行到一段路去舊時比賽和降落的地方去降落,好不幸有兩位飛友因為步行時失去飛機的蹤影而失事撞機,我對此表示歉意!

請問今次比賽我們應該如何安排,減少意外和盡量提高效率?請選擇:

1. 返回以前位置比賽和降落
2. 跟上次一樣繼續在大金鐘那邊比賽,步行一段路到降落區降落
3. 在大金鐘那邊比賽,不需步行到降落區,就在斜坡前降落(微和緩風可以,但大風較困難)
4. 在大金鐘那邊比賽,準許機手個人意願在那裡降落
5. 在大金鐘那邊比賽,行去在A點附近降落(阿麥提出)
6. 在大金鐘那邊比賽,行去在A點附近降落,但降落和出賽是分段進行(Stanley 提出)
7. 其他可行方案,請陳述


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請問今次比賽我們應該如何安排,減少意外和盡量提高效率?請選擇:
5. 其他可行方案,請陳述


Landing on the slope next to base-A.


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4. 在大金鐘那邊比賽,準許機手個人意願在那裡降落
我覺得好d


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4. 在大金鐘那邊比賽,準許機手個人意願在那裡降落


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K.Y.Mak wrote:
Stanley wrote:
請問今次比賽我們應該如何安排,減少意外和盡量提高效率?請選擇:
5. 其他可行方案,請陳述


Landing on the slope next to base-A.



Landing on the slope next to base-A x2


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donny wrote:
K.Y.Mak wrote:
Stanley wrote:
請問今次比賽我們應該如何安排,減少意外和盡量提高效率?請選擇:
5. 其他可行方案,請陳述


Landing on the slope next to base-A.



Landing on the slope next to base-A x2



Landing on the slope next to base-A x3


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星期日既比賽唔知有冇位比我隻"乞兒仔"參加呢?


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嘩!Ken28 殺機王都到,我都要回避下羅!

歡迎!歡迎!


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K.Y.Mak wrote:
Landing on the slope next to base-A.


阿麥,係個度降落好似離A點太近呀,如果降落失敗要出去黎過就好容易與賽緊既飛機相撞,可唔可以再稍移肉步行多少少呀! :wink: :wink:
就算唔行到去以前降落個位都起碼要行到以前B點judge座果個位啦,個度離新A點應該都可以接受。


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Stanley wrote:
各位飛友,天氣預告話今個星期日是吹大東風,正呀!好大機會我地會係馬鞍山比賽。

自從上次馬鞍非正式比賽後,都好想問問你們對在近大鐘那邊場地比賽的意見,集思廣益,好攘我們決定今次比賽的安排。

在上次比賽,飛友完成賽事後要步行到一段路去舊時比賽和降落的地方去降落,好不幸有兩位飛友因為步行時失去飛機的蹤影而失事撞機,我對此表示歉意!

請問今次比賽我們應該如何安排,減少意外和盡量提高效率?請選擇:

1. 返回以前位置比賽和降落
2. 跟上次一樣繼續在大金鐘那邊比賽,步行一段路到降落區降落
3. 在大金鐘那邊比賽,不需步行到降落區,就在斜坡前降落(微和緩風可以,但大風較困難)
4. 在大金鐘那邊比賽,準許機手個人意願在那裡降落
5. 其他可行方案,請陳述


Thanks Stanley, I prefer #1 <AND> #4 :o with ideas to share below :

a. After flying again in both slopes (以前位置 vs 大金鐘那邊) on Jan 1 & Jan 3 and chatted with some experienced pilots. I think both slopes have different characteristics and require different flying style. It is really wonderful that now we have two slopes available for F3F race and there is no need to stick to either one slope and give up the other. Perhaps we can simply let the CD to decide which slope or flip a coin on the spot :idea:

p.s. For 以前位置, there should be not much 效率 issue because once finish last leg, many pilots can immediately enter into landing track and land without circulate again. To maximize 效率, the best way is to follow Oct 2008 race where each pilot will queue on their own to minimize pilot waiting time for coming out :!:

b. For hosting the race on 大金鐘那邊, ideally ,步行一段路到以前位置降落區降落 if there is

- NO other flying sport like paragliding
- Good lift
- Good visibility (no fog, no rain)
- Traffic control for less than 3 planes on the sky

This is because the most "troublesome" issue will be on walking from the pilot stand to 以前位置 for landing, the pilot needs to walk through a shallow slope with very poor & non-transparent visibility :idea: (unlike other flying side like Peng Hu or Mickey slope which can allow a clear view of entire landing site during walking) .. that's perhaps quite difficult to handle. So we can consdier let the pilot decide where to land :o

All-in-all, both are good slopes and suggest continue balance the practice and race on both slopes :wink:


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Stanley wrote:
K.Y.Mak wrote:
Landing on the slope next to base-A.


阿麥,係個度降落好似離A點太近呀,如果降落失敗要出去黎過就好容易與賽緊既飛機相撞,可唔可以再稍移肉步行多少少呀! :wink: :wink:
就算唔行到去以前降落個位都起碼要行到以前B點judge座果個位啦,個度離新A點應該都可以接受。


It's very easy to land by base-A. If landing failed
(too fast !),all you have to do is to dive down.
otherwise, option 4 should be OK too. Landing's easy on that location, wouldn't take too long to land !

About the slope selection.
I bet (大金鐘那邊) is good for E to SE wind.
Old place is better for E, OK for SE and NE.


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I prefer 1. or 2.
1. 返回以前位置比賽和降落
2. 跟上次一樣繼續在大金鐘那邊比賽,步行一段路到降落區降落



上一次係我第一次參加比賽, 給我感覺到一些問題:

1) 比賽出左機後, A 點常有等待 landing 之機在上空, 阻礙入 track 航線, 有時更有等 landing 之機 越過 A點, 對參賽者不公平之餘, 亦有一定危險性. 可否考慮更改上一次之 B 點為 A點?

2) 行去 landing 時, 成天都係機! 4-5架一起等 landing 都經常有~ 行緊去landing 時好易分心睇錯機, 而且怕一時不慎就相撞...

3) 滑翔傘 好多時都在 A 點對開 及 降落位置出沒,但比賽仍然繼續, 曾經目睹了幾次驚險場面...

"在大金鐘那邊比賽,準許機手個人意願在那裡降落" 可能意義不大, 到時個個都唔行, 係比賽位 landing, 未又係等同係舊比賽區, 等上位機友 landing 一樣!? 可能仲等得耐D...

我唔介意飛小幾次, 最緊要係安全至上! 行去 landing 確有難度及壓力, 希望不用每次比賽都用 "步行一段路到降落區降落" 方案, 等大賽前才給我們實習多一兩次吧!


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我覺得在大金鐘那邊比賽,另一個可行的方案是出賽和降落是分段進行,就好似我地去良景比賽的安排一樣,我飛友完成賽事後,飛機離開賽道不能返回,並步行到近A點位置準備降落,下一個機手立即出機,當這位機手完成賽事後,上一位已到降落點的機手就可以降落,飛機降落後下一位機手才可出機,這樣的安排,機手不再需要行過那個視野差的低凹地段,空中也只有一隻還未降落的飛機。
如果這樣的安排行的話,A點和B點可以互換,在近山A點增取高度的飛機跟還未降落的飛機有很大距離,互相扞擾的機會很少,你們對這樣安排(方案6)有冇意見?


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Would like to ask who is keeping the timer? Please pass it to me to repair :x


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Would like to ask who is keeping the timer? Please pass it to me to repair :x


I have already repaired the timer and resoldered the plug.


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Stanley wrote:
我覺得在大金鐘那邊比賽,另一個可行的方案是出賽和降落是分段進行,就好似我地去良景比賽的安排一樣,我飛友完成賽事後,飛機離開賽道不能返回,並步行到近A點位置準備降落,下一個機手立即出機,當這位機手完成賽事後,上一位已到降落點的機手就可以降落,飛機降落後下一位機手才可出機,這樣的安排,機手不再需要行過那個視野差的低凹地段,空中也只有一隻還未降落的飛機。
如果這樣的安排行的話,A點和B點可以互換,在近山A點增取高度的飛機跟還未降落的飛機有很大距離,互相扞擾的機會很少,你們對這樣安排(方案6)有冇意見?


謝謝 Stanley 大大 :o 我認為 (方案6) ok :o

原則上我們應該多鍛煉步行一段路到降落區降落 … 但很可惜從 "大金鐘那邊”走路到 前比賽位置降落”那裡, 有一段道路 "沉落去” 不能看通整個天空或草地 (從前比賽位置到滑翔傘著陸區都是盲點)

如果突然有滑翔傘 / 其他飛機出來 ! 很難避 ! 像上一次總有2滑翔傘 + 3 至 4 架飛機在天空排隊等候降落, 不容易處理 ! 需要找出一些好方法解決 :o (方案6) 似乎挺好 :idea:

p.s 比較海外場, 通常步行一段路到降落區降落視野無阻, 典型 0 至 1 架飛機在天空排隊等候降落 8)


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謝謝 Stanley 大大 :o 我認為 (方案6) ok :o

p.s 比較海外場, 通常步行一段路到降落區降落視野無阻, 8)


外國都有高難度降落場


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